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The purpose of this thread is to house discussion that seek to compare the novels with the way the content was adapted in the anime, and to speculate on how future novels may be adapted.
If you are going to discuss major plot developments from unanimated novels, please use spoiler tags.
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The adaptation of Nisemonogatari has its good and its bad, but the bad points are more than I expected. Frankly I am a bit worried about the future adaptations. The problem is that whereas Bakemonogatari was more focused, in Nise there is an increasing amount of inner thoughts that not only offer some exposition but also offer the context for the gags. If you cut them all you end up with something that is not so funny and yet you can't cut because it is referenced elsewhere.
And while in Bake the amount of gags was relatively low, so you could cut them here and there and manage to make it appear more serious, this absolutely didn't work in Nise. At the core it's a slice of life comedy. Cutting most of the comedy is cutting the strong point. It is undeniable that Tsukihi Phoenix has a simple story, but that doesn't mean that you can simplify it to this extent in the adaptation. The adaptation feels as weird as if they changed the main character. Things are the same yet they are not.
Some people explained it to themselves thinking Nise is the worst book in the series (something that got stuck from when there was only Bake, Nise and Kizu out). The truth is that if they continue like this Bake will be better than many other stories in the series. Books whose strong point is the inner thoughts of the main character (like NekoShiro and Otori) will be butchered. Kabuki and Oni will receive the same fate of Tsukihi Phoenix probably. Only those books where there are plenty of interactions between characters like Hana and Koi will avoid to be overly compressed, and even then there will be some people who will find them too long like Nise1 :(
The purpose of this thread is to house discussion that seek to compare the novels with the way the content was adapted in the anime, and to speculate on how future novels may be adapted.
If you are going to discuss major plot developments from unanimated novels, please use spoiler tags.
The post below was moved from another thread, and discussion picks up from that point.
The adaptation of Nisemonogatari has its good and its bad, but the bad points are more than I expected. Frankly I am a bit worried about the future adaptations. The problem is that whereas Bakemonogatari was more focused, in Nise there is an increasing amount of inner thoughts that not only offer some exposition but also offer the context for the gags. If you cut them all you end up with something that is not so funny and yet you can't cut because it is referenced elsewhere.
And while in Bake the amount of gags was relatively low, so you could cut them here and there and manage to make it appear more serious, this absolutely didn't work in Nise. At the core it's a slice of life comedy. Cutting most of the comedy is cutting the strong point. It is undeniable that Tsukihi Phoenix has a simple story, but that doesn't mean that you can simplify it to this extent in the adaptation. The adaptation feels as weird as if they changed the main character. Things are the same yet they are not.
Some people explained it to themselves thinking Nise is the worst book in the series (something that got stuck from when there was only Bake, Nise and Kizu out). The truth is that if they continue like this Bake will be better than many other stories in the series. Books whose strong point is the inner thoughts of the main character (like NekoShiro and Otori) will be butchered. Kabuki and Oni will receive the same fate of Tsukihi Phoenix probably. Only those books where there are plenty of interactions between characters like Hana and Koi will avoid to be overly compressed, and even then there will be some people who will find them too long like Nise1 :(